"The practices of the past are no longer acceptable. And by that I mean, they are totally acceptable."
Well, Papa Joe Cheerleader (our illustrious Governor, Joe Manchin) has responded to the latest gutter level scandal of state contract bidding shenanigans, and General Service Division workers falsifying timesheets to steal thousands of dollars of overtime pay. Yes, Papa Joe has responded. Oh, he made it clear, that the "practices of the past, are not acceptable in his administration." Yes, Papa Joe has come in and cleaned up the scum pit that is state government waste and old boy, backroom shenanigans. We are open for business.
However, a quick little examination of a couple facts shows that not only is it still business as usual (in direct contradiction to what he claims in soundbites to the media), it may be that Papa Joe is making it part of his policy.
I noticed in the news today that Troy Body (I think that was his name) resigned his post as "acting" Director of Culture and History. He gave as a reason for moving on to some job in Kentucky, that he'd been in that position for 18 months, and he was still "acting." Evidently, he felt he should have been given the full post. That jogged my memory about something I noticed the other day. I had been poking around on some local news sites, and I was rereading the "I Team" report about sexual harassment in state government on the WOWK-TV website. I noticed, that Tax Commissioner Virgil Helton, is listed in that article as currently the "Acting" Tax Commissioner. It was kind of odd, because that story also involved a letter he had written in regards to that sexual harassment case, way back in the spring, as "Acting" Tax Commissioner.
So, I checked, and sure enough on the State Tax Department's website, he's the Acting Tax Commissioner, being appointed to that post on January 17, 2005. It also says he used to be Deputy Director of Finance and Administration at the Lottery Commission. So, I went to the Lottery website and was poking around looking for his name there, and managed to find a news release just last month where some guy was appointed to fill the Deputy Director for Finance and Administration position that was held by Virgil Helton before he was named Acting Tax Commissioner in January of 2005. This guy's name is James Toney. Well, thanks to the wonders of the State Auditor's Office, you can find out any state worker's salary.
I asked the Auditor's office how much Mr. Toney was making. Mr. Toney makes $72,000 per year. I then asked how much Mr. Helton makes. He makes $80,208 per year. However, I remember hearing one time that agency heads and super secretaries' salaries are set by statute. I thought they were like even numbers or something, so the "208" part of his salary seemed weird. I also thought I remembered some rumblings about these top level administrator's salaries last spring when the judges got their pay raise. I seemed to remember some of the agency heads and other top-level administrators were in line to get raises in some of the judge's pay raise proposed legislation. So, I went looking for that code section. It's code section 6-7-2a. It lists the salaries of about a zillion different agency heads and super secretary positions. Funny thing is, that the tax commissioner is required by statute to be paid $65,000. But, Mr. Helton, is making $80,208, over $15,000 more than the law stipulates. One can only assume the $80,208 is what Helton was making at the Lottery. Because his current post has a salary of $65,000, required by law.
So, I thought, I'd poke around in the code and see what the deal is on these "acting" directors/commissioners/whatevers. The "real" directors/commissioners are supposed to be "confirmed" by the senate. I knew that much. But I wondered if there was some sort of time limit or something on the "actings." I didn't find anything in the code, but I took a shot and tried the WV Constitution, and low and behold, there it is, in Article VII, section 9. Recess Vacancies. The Governor appoints someone to a vacancy, as he did with Helton, while the Senate is in recess. When the Senate has it's "next meeting," the Governor SHALL (i.e., he MUST) make a nomination for that position, and the Senate has to give it the thumbs up or down. Why is Helton STILL acting? The Governor does not have any discretion here. The constitution is clear.
I wonder why he didn't nominate anyone? Why didn't the Governor send Helton's name to the Senate for confirmation during this year's regular session? Or during one of the umpteen special sessions we've had this year? I wonder if his theory is, that as long as Helton is "acting" he can continue to collect his $80,203, and not have to take a $15,000 pay cut? Usually, those "acting" positions are so that they can have someone step "up" and fill it, and if they eventually choose an outside person to be the REAL commissioner/whatever, the "acting" can go back to his "original" job, at his "original" salary. But, Helton doesn't have an "original" job to go back to. That's been filled by James Toney at the Lottery Commission.
So why is he still being paid his "original" salary of $80,208? He should be making $65,000, as required by the law in 6-7-2a. The Governor is directly ignoring the law, and it's costing the taxpayers of WV an extra $15,000, for just one position. And there are several of these "acting" directors/commissioners/whatevers around state government. Helton is just one of them. That Body guy was another. In my quick research I found there's also two "co-directors" of the PEIA, and an acting Director of the Division of Personnel. I didn't do anywhere near a comprehensive search, and some of the positions don't have much info about them on the web, so there may very well be other (in fact, I'd bet on it) "actings" out there.
Sure, the practices of the past, are just not acceptable to this administration. They appear to be mandatory
However, a quick little examination of a couple facts shows that not only is it still business as usual (in direct contradiction to what he claims in soundbites to the media), it may be that Papa Joe is making it part of his policy.
I noticed in the news today that Troy Body (I think that was his name) resigned his post as "acting" Director of Culture and History. He gave as a reason for moving on to some job in Kentucky, that he'd been in that position for 18 months, and he was still "acting." Evidently, he felt he should have been given the full post. That jogged my memory about something I noticed the other day. I had been poking around on some local news sites, and I was rereading the "I Team" report about sexual harassment in state government on the WOWK-TV website. I noticed, that Tax Commissioner Virgil Helton, is listed in that article as currently the "Acting" Tax Commissioner. It was kind of odd, because that story also involved a letter he had written in regards to that sexual harassment case, way back in the spring, as "Acting" Tax Commissioner.
So, I checked, and sure enough on the State Tax Department's website, he's the Acting Tax Commissioner, being appointed to that post on January 17, 2005. It also says he used to be Deputy Director of Finance and Administration at the Lottery Commission. So, I went to the Lottery website and was poking around looking for his name there, and managed to find a news release just last month where some guy was appointed to fill the Deputy Director for Finance and Administration position that was held by Virgil Helton before he was named Acting Tax Commissioner in January of 2005. This guy's name is James Toney. Well, thanks to the wonders of the State Auditor's Office, you can find out any state worker's salary.
I asked the Auditor's office how much Mr. Toney was making. Mr. Toney makes $72,000 per year. I then asked how much Mr. Helton makes. He makes $80,208 per year. However, I remember hearing one time that agency heads and super secretaries' salaries are set by statute. I thought they were like even numbers or something, so the "208" part of his salary seemed weird. I also thought I remembered some rumblings about these top level administrator's salaries last spring when the judges got their pay raise. I seemed to remember some of the agency heads and other top-level administrators were in line to get raises in some of the judge's pay raise proposed legislation. So, I went looking for that code section. It's code section 6-7-2a. It lists the salaries of about a zillion different agency heads and super secretary positions. Funny thing is, that the tax commissioner is required by statute to be paid $65,000. But, Mr. Helton, is making $80,208, over $15,000 more than the law stipulates. One can only assume the $80,208 is what Helton was making at the Lottery. Because his current post has a salary of $65,000, required by law.
So, I thought, I'd poke around in the code and see what the deal is on these "acting" directors/commissioners/whatevers. The "real" directors/commissioners are supposed to be "confirmed" by the senate. I knew that much. But I wondered if there was some sort of time limit or something on the "actings." I didn't find anything in the code, but I took a shot and tried the WV Constitution, and low and behold, there it is, in Article VII, section 9. Recess Vacancies. The Governor appoints someone to a vacancy, as he did with Helton, while the Senate is in recess. When the Senate has it's "next meeting," the Governor SHALL (i.e., he MUST) make a nomination for that position, and the Senate has to give it the thumbs up or down. Why is Helton STILL acting? The Governor does not have any discretion here. The constitution is clear.
I wonder why he didn't nominate anyone? Why didn't the Governor send Helton's name to the Senate for confirmation during this year's regular session? Or during one of the umpteen special sessions we've had this year? I wonder if his theory is, that as long as Helton is "acting" he can continue to collect his $80,203, and not have to take a $15,000 pay cut? Usually, those "acting" positions are so that they can have someone step "up" and fill it, and if they eventually choose an outside person to be the REAL commissioner/whatever, the "acting" can go back to his "original" job, at his "original" salary. But, Helton doesn't have an "original" job to go back to. That's been filled by James Toney at the Lottery Commission.
So why is he still being paid his "original" salary of $80,208? He should be making $65,000, as required by the law in 6-7-2a. The Governor is directly ignoring the law, and it's costing the taxpayers of WV an extra $15,000, for just one position. And there are several of these "acting" directors/commissioners/whatevers around state government. Helton is just one of them. That Body guy was another. In my quick research I found there's also two "co-directors" of the PEIA, and an acting Director of the Division of Personnel. I didn't do anywhere near a comprehensive search, and some of the positions don't have much info about them on the web, so there may very well be other (in fact, I'd bet on it) "actings" out there.
Sure, the practices of the past, are just not acceptable to this administration. They appear to be mandatory


15 Comments:
What did you expect from a Manchin?
Wow, man. Great work.
Would you mind if I put on a link on my blog to yours?
It's Troy Body. (Just fyi.)
#1 - It takes much less energy, time, and committment to ease back in your computer chair and criticize what your public officials are doing, rather than actually DO their job. Have ever thought that it might make SENSE to figure out a way to pay your people more money? Wouldn't it follow that more money attracts a higher quality of employee? I would much rather pay someone $80,208 than $65,000 if that meant that they would be a better employee, with a more diverse range of skills, and more committed. One of the biggest problems with governments is that they struggle with attracting excellent quality directors/commissioners/administrators b/c those pay regulations stand in the way. I think the extra $15,000 is worth the money, from a taxpayer's point of view, if the guy is a better candidate than the one that will work for $65K.
#2 - The constitution, in VII-9 is quite clear about the confirmation. But if you read VII-1 yow will see that it only applies to certain postions: governor, secretary of state, auditor, treasurer, commissioner of argiculture, and attorney general. There is no mention of the tax commissioner in the article. So, I can understand your concern... as misplaced as it may be. "Reading is fundamental".... jackass
Troy Brody. 5 correction points to RR.
Anonymous will dealt with at a later date when I have more time to specifically point out how dumb and blatantly inaccurate his comments are. I might get to it sometime over the weekend.
I welcome you to educate me; I do not claim to be an expert in governmental affairs. If I were not interested, I would not have spent the time and effort reading and responding to your blowhard rants. This is my first day wasting time out of my life reading through your sea of speculation. So please, enjoy formulating your retort, and take your time. I enjoy objective clarity, so if you are capable of it, I would appreciate your effort toward such a response.
If my comments are so blatantly dumb, I would have expected at least a shadow of how they are so in your last post.
Love and kisses
Sigh. Got your crayon ready? You might want to take some notes. This will be quick. I'll get to your other bullshit later. But since you want some answers about 7-9 pronto, I guess I'll give you the cliffs notes version.
Read sections 7-8 and 7-9, numbnuts. In case you are too stupid to figure out how to do that:
7-8. Governor to nominate certain officers.
The governor shall nominate, and by and with the advice and consent of the Senate, (a majority of all the senators elected concurring by yeas and nays) appoint all officers whose offices are established by this constitution, or shall be created by law, and whose appointment or election is not otherwise provided for; and no such officer shall be appointed or elected by the Legislature.
7-9. Recess vacancies -- How filled.
In case of a vacancy, during the recess of the Senate, in any office which is not elective, the governor shall, by appointment, fill such vacancy, until the next meeting of the Senate, when he shall make a nomination for such office, and the person so nominated, when confirmed by the Senate, (a majority of all the senators elected concurring by yeas and nays) shall hold his office during the remainder of the term, and until his successor shall be appointed and qualified. No person, after being rejected by the Senate, shall be again nominated for the same office, during the same session, unless at the request of the Senate; nor shall such person be appointed to the same office during the recess of the Senate.
What officers do you think they are referring to in 7-9? The governor, auditor, treasurer, etc? If so, why the hell do they use the term "in any office which is not elective?" When it says "or shall be created by law" it it is talking about the various commissioners and agency heads established in the various statutes of the wv code, like the tax commissioner, the dhhr commissioner, the supersecretaries (tax and revenue, arts and education, etc).
The fact you think 7-9 applies only to the elected constitutional officers like the gov, treas, ag, etc. would actually be funny, if not so outright pathetic. Especially when it tells you right in the text of the amendment itself, that it's talking about offices that are "not elective." Why don't you just claim the world is flat too, while you are at it?
What was that you were saying about "reading is fundamental," jackass?
Here endeth the lesson.
HAHA, embarrassment overcomes me. After I got a chance to read, and not skim, I saw that as well. However, I am man enough to admit that I was wrong. Rest assured it will not happen again. As you can probably tell, I am not a lawyer or politician. When it comes to WV state government.... I am a beginner. I have not had a chance to rot in this state long enough to become so embittered.... which I can understand. While I made an ass of myself in a paragraph, you manage to do so on a regular basis on your pithy, low-traffic site. I can understand why you don't get too many hits.... you blend far too much speculation into your facts. I saw Conspiracy Theory too.... that guy, like you, was off his rocker. So, anyhow, if you have anything to say about any of the other seven comments I have written, I welcome that as well... b/c there will be some things that you will never be able to touch me on. Because, as we all know, defending speculation is as futile as you trying to get laid.
Ciao
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HAHA, embarrassment overcomes me. After I got a chance to read, and not skim, I saw that as well.
Funny. You didn't mention your mistake (*rolls eyes*) until I called you on it.
However, I am man enough to admit that I was wrong. Rest assured it will not happen again.
Won't happen again? It happens in this very same post, dumbass. See below.
As you can probably tell, I am not a lawyer or politician. When it comes to WV state government.... I am a beginner.
You got that right. I never claimed you had a clue.
I have not had a chance to rot in this state long enough to become so embittered.... which I can understand. While I made an ass of myself in a paragraph, you manage to do so on a regular basis on your pithy, low-traffic site.
One that you continue to visit. I wonder why?
I can understand why you don't get too many hits....
Why don't you tell me how many hits I get, smartguy?
you blend far too much speculation into your facts. I saw Conspiracy Theory too.... that guy, like you, was off his rocker.
Remember how you said you wouldn't be wrong again? If you actually watched Conspiracy Theory as you claim, you'd know that "that guy" was dead on right about the conspiracies. That was the whole fucking point of the movie, dumbshit. Is someone really paranoid, if someone really IS after them? Remember the scene about the space shuttle and the earthquakes? Go rent it again, and get back to us.
This is too easy.
So, anyhow, if you have anything to say about any of the other seven comments I have written, I welcome that as well... b/c there will be some things that you will never be able to touch me on. Because, as we all know, defending speculation is as futile as you trying to get laid.
LMAO. You bring in the "getting laid" comment to this argument? What are you, 12?
I have seen the movie enough, thanks. The only difference here is the that you are not an ex-CIA/NSA agent, just a poor West Virginian with a Dell and a dream. So, you ARE fucking crazy, but NOT SPOT ON about everything (see City Manager article). So what, you were right about one thing. I was hasty and and made a mistake, get over it. I still see no comments about the other things I have written. I guess its tough to act like a dick when I'm right about everything else. So, you can continue to harp on a single point (note how you could only dodge the reference to my other points by jesting my age), I know you need to get satisfaction from ~something~.
In any case, yes, I am most likely younger than you, so you might not want to get too big of a hard on from being right about ONE point. I still think its fine to pay (over)qualified people whatever it takes to keep them (to a point). You seem like a smart and not-at-all humble guy... would YOU take a pay cut to do a job for 65K in one place while you could easily get another job at $82+?
Maybe they have not voted on confirming this guy b/c they know they can't get someone better or with more experience. Just maybe they are illegally keeping him around at his acting status because he benefits the State to a suitable degree. Is THAT plausable?
I may not know as much about politics as you do, but I assert that I have more corporate experience than you may ever. Too many good people are seduced out of public service b/c the private sector can pay more. I applaud the State for keeping certain people at whatever cost. Who knows, we might see some reform coming down the pike.
I have seen the movie enough, thanks. The only difference here is the that you are not an ex-CIA/NSA agent, just a poor West Virginian with a Dell and a dream. So, you ARE fucking crazy, but NOT SPOT ON about everything (see City Manager article).
What was I wrong about? You said nothing to disprove anything I wrote. You may think you did, but you didn't.
So what, you were right about one thing. I was hasty and and made a mistake, get over it.
It's not that it's a "get over it" type thing. It was like saying 2+2=5. It shows you don't know shit, about how to read the law, or even what the fuck is going on. Yet, you are on here, spouting off about your corporate experience? What, do you work in some telemarketing firm or McDonald's or something?
I still see no comments about the other things I have written. I guess its tough to act like a dick when I'm right about everything else.
Uh, apparently, you've been waiting with some sort of anticipation for my reply. I wonder why that is. Remember, you said my site is some sort of no account low hit site. So why the hell should you care, let alone spend so much time on it?
So, you can continue to harp on a single point (note how you could only dodge the reference to my other points by jesting my age), I know you need to get satisfaction from ~something~.
Riiiiiiiiiiiight. And who was the one who said something about getting laid as some sort of argument? Tell me, do you impress your corporate clients, when you say, "Dude, relax. You need to just get laid." I'm sure that's a big deal closer.
In any case, yes, I am most likely younger than you, so you might not want to get too big of a hard on from being right about ONE point.
That's way more than one point, sport.
I still think its fine to pay (over)qualified people whatever it takes to keep them (to a point). You seem like a smart and not-at-all humble guy... would YOU take a pay cut to do a job for 65K in one place while you could easily get another job at $82+?
Sure. Unless the law says you can't. Of course, with your whipsmart law reading skills, you glossed over that point. Even though, it was right there in front of you. Oh, that's right. You admitted you fucked up. After I called you on it.
Maybe they have not voted on confirming this guy b/c they know they can't get someone better or with more experience.
That's not the point, dumbshit. The law says they SHALL vote to confirm or reject. Do you know what that means? It's not a fucking option or something. It's a requirement. Again, your failure to understand even the most basic of concepts when it comes to the law, is frightening. If it was an "optional" thing, they'd use the word "may," not "shall."
Just maybe they are illegally keeping him around at his acting status because he benefits the State to a suitable degree. Is THAT plausable?
Doesn't matter. You just said it yourself. It's illegal. Maybe, if the government came to your house, and simply confiscated all your stuff and knocked down your house, because well, it "benefits the state to a suitable degree" I guess that'd be ok too?
I may not know as much about politics as you do, but I assert that I have more corporate experience than you may ever. Too many good people are seduced out of public service b/c the private sector can pay more. I applaud the State for keeping certain people at whatever cost. Who knows, we might see some reform coming down the pike.
So, you'll have lots of well paid peeps at the top, and the people at the bottom who actually do the work, will be paid scraps, and the actual work quality, will consequently suffer?
Like the Guiness Guys say, "BRILLIANT!"
Blah, blah, blah.... you are a more of a dipshit than I could ever hope to be. You know political shit about a state that means absoloutely nothing.... good work, I'm sure everyone is really proud of you. Your weak sarcasm and adherance to my mistake show me that you have no interest in connecting with any of my other points. Your counterpoints are just as outrageous as your articles. This whole time I've been trying to tease some things out of that huge brain of yours.... WHY DO YOU THINK THIS IS HAPPENING? Is it just because Manchin is buddies with all of those commissioners? Why would he take that risk? Is there something deeper there that you can't see?
If you can't answer that, then I have wasted my time here.
Bingmunch, don't pay any attention to those numb nuts, that crititze you.
The dumb asses don't know what a following you Have, or anything about history. It's people that speak out that change history, for the better and these numb nuts, are voting for pric's, that try and make their selves a dinasty.
I doubt that they have ever read anything about Ben Franklin, who stated, that the Pen Is Mightier Than the sword and history has proven that.
Please keep up the good work!
KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK BINGMUNCH We need freedom of the press, that is if they weren't such cowards.
Food for thought, have you ever noticed that most High Ranked ( Paid ) state employees come from the northen part of the state. Have any of you ever heard of the Purple Gang out of Detroit, Michigan? Well go to Google and type that in and see what it says.
Well, They have a satlite office in Ohio County, it was in Wellsburg, a little ways above wheeling WV.
Do you know that former Felon Gov. Arch Moore, is from Glenndale a suburb of Wheeling and if you cross over the mountian on route 250, That will be Fairmont WV. A local Town Of Our now so called Gov. Joe Manchin. And would you beieve they are very close acquaintances?
Arch, knows his way arund in that area,the race track and gambling aren't to far from his home town.
Now the Purple Gang, did pay for some member education at WV University Law School, one that I know of back in the 1980's was assigned to that area as a US Attorney. I think he is retired now and living in a fine home across the Ohio River?
I think he was syphering to much from the (Haria Kristana) Golden Church and they stood up to him? Thing got to hot and he retired,a young educated rich man.
Now here is my point, have you noticed that All of Gov. Joes 's appointed so called High Paid Big Shot's came fron that area and that he is surrounded by all of his immiddeate family, or some kid that feels it is and honor to work for him, for food stamp wages? There is one lady being paid $70.000 a year for answering the phone at Gov Joe's and gettind her wages from the DMV, Joe Cigarello, ( Gov. Joe's appointed Friend ) from up north.
Have you noticed that about all of hie appointees last nane end with and A E I O or a U Making his place a safe haven. it's already a dynisty, sister, sons, brother, daughters cousins, nephews, etc. All close, under his watchfull eyes. WHY? He was supposed to clean up our state not make it a safe haven? and/or a palace for his team. You do know he is a God Father, with approximately 120 members, his Father and Grand Father were also, it falls to the oldest son.
Now you know I'm not putting my name on this, I once had a friend that wanted out of the Purple Gang and he wound up in the morg, a few weeks after he said he wanted out. He was run down by a hit and run driver in Morgantown WV.
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